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skoosiepants ([personal profile] skoosiepants) wrote2006-07-22 01:07 pm
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I'm going to be totally honest...

This is simplifying a lot, but...

Okay, so when Mike and the other Wraiths-turned-human confronted Lathon in the woods? I totally thought it was going to be a we're human looking but we still act like Wraith when one of our own pisses us off type of thing. Because it's not like they're loyal to one another. We've seen that enough. And you know what? I think that storyline would've been cooler than the we've stopped taking the medicine and remember thing. Because then they would've been addressing the issue that even though they look human, they still are innately Wraith, and now what do the Altanteans do with them and they're messed up social moralities? Or something like that.

Also, Beckett was a complete idiot the entire episode.

Also, also, I have no problem with them killing off the Wraith-turned-humans. I'm sorry. They're still Wraith, they're still a threat, and it's still war. Probably not everyone's opinion, but eh. *shrugs* The Wraith are pretty evil, and I don't think anyone comes out smellin' like roses in war.

[identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com 2006-07-22 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that gets into Beckett's morality, and I think he was being an idiot about the whole thing. The hive ship, they had to do it to survive, so I'm not going to argue with that, but Mike. Yeah, I think they could've handled him differently.

And it could go lots of different ways, but when you're dealing with two intelligent species fighting for survival, then it's more of a war than a predator/prey dynamic to me, so I'm okay with calling the Wraith evil. But I also understand that it's innate, and not a cultural aberration, so it's a tough line to walk.

I'm not exactly going to say I'm routing for the 'good guys,' because obviously the sga team did some bad things, but I'm still on their side anyway.

[identity profile] lillian78.livejournal.com 2006-07-22 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, of course, we see someone eating us as *evil* but I suspect the Wraith regard humans as their natural "prey" and don't philosophize about their intelligence etc. A great white shark who has attacked a human is demonized and sets off all kinds of craziness i.e. shark hunts, shooting sharks out of the water literlly but the the predator isn't choosing evil so much as his lunch. :-D

[identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com 2006-07-22 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I wouldn't call a shark evil, but then they aren't highly organized creatures with the one single goal of eating humans.

Which brings up the question, what the hell do Wraith do other than eat humans? Seriously, I'm really curious. Do you think they do anything? Play cards? Talk to one another? Because you'd think that at their intelligence level, they'd have more of a purpose than merely surviving. Although maybe not, since apparently there's so many of them... maybe just surviving is difficult? hmmmmmm...

[identity profile] lillian78.livejournal.com 2006-07-22 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a great question. With their natural life span you'd think they'd have a little more energy for things wouldn't you? But there is that problem of them going dormant for long periods of time, fifty years at a clip right? Maybe the very biology that makes them live almost supernaturally long lives has a high price in consumption too. A lion on the Serengeti plain must rest and conserve energy between hunts otherwise they waste valuable calories for nothing. Maybe that's the Wraith's problem with diversification as well. Human's live shorter but perhaps more productive lives.

[identity profile] twilight-la-fae.livejournal.com 2006-07-22 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Peter Deluise actually brought this up in the commentary for The Gift- as the Wraith go strolling by, as seen by Teyla, Peter remarks that all they actually do is go back and forth the hairdressers- keeping their locks pretty and styled. He said it was a very time consuming procedure, *grin*

I'm pretty iffy on this episode as well- Michael, oh Michael. They could of handled that oh so much better. *shifts* I don't know about the whole killing-the-Wraith-people thing. I got the whole surviving thing, but some of those didn't have a clue. And do we even know if they're dead? Maybe the other hive scooped them up. *shrug*

I guess this is why I like this show so much- They are not the perfect good guys. They make some seriously sucky decisions, they fuck up, and you have to question the characters you've grown to love. Atlantis is pretty hardcore, compared to what I've heard of SG-1. I've never watched it, so I don't know though.