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Let's make a list for the new year!

1. technically, it's 'another think'
2. passed/past are not interchangeable
3. 'no one' is two words - I blame E.E. Cummings for this, noone looks weird, so people were all, 'let's put a hyphen in!;' no, no, this is wrong.
4. the timeless classic: there/their/they're; know them, love them.
5. says/said are the best choices! I think it was [livejournal.com profile] chopchica who opened my eyes to this wonder - they disappear! You can use them all you want, and they never trip anyone up. Use them, and you shall understand.
6. actual names are awesome. There is no such thing as using a name too much. (I mean, unless you go crazy, there's some sort of line there.)
7. leave your crazy formatting at home, I want to read capital letters - it's not clever to use 'i' instead of 'I' or 'lorenzo' instead of 'Lorenzo.'

um, more?

In other breaking news: it is freezing outside.

Also, great things are happening over at [livejournal.com profile] sodamnskippy.
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Date: 2010-01-09 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highschoolhussy.livejournal.com
taut/taunt: When something is pulled tight, it's TAUT. When you make fun of someone, why not try a good TAUNT? This one drives me batty, and I see it all the time in otherwise great fic.

Everyone/someone/no one is singular. Please use singular pronouns to match: Everyone took her coat off the rack, NOT Everyone took their coat off the rack.

STOP USING APOSTROPHES TO MAKE THINGS PLURAL. NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE (that I know of, so probably it has...sigh) HAS AN APOSTROPHE EVER EFFECTIVELY MADE SOMETHING PLURAL. I reeeeeeeeaaaaallly hate apostrophe abuse, and yes, I know and appreciate that blog.

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Date: 2010-01-09 03:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rsadelle
OMG, yes on the apostrophes. Bandom specific case: the plural of "Alex" is "Alexes," no apostrophe.

I have to say that I deeply appreciate fandom for not doing one thing that appears to be popular in pretentious literary circles: leaving out quotation marks around dialogue. Apparently Cormac McCarthy did this and now everyone who wants to be a literary author thinks it's okay. (I am bitter about a first chapter from my writing group that was great right up until the dialogue when I stopped paying attention to the story and was just frothingly angry about the lack of quotation marks.)

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Date: 2010-01-09 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] o4fuxache.livejournal.com
Further/farther. It drives me baaaatty.

Also gray writing on black background. I'm glad your fic is very dark but if I can't read it I'm never going to know how dark it is because it's, well, too dark.

And I want to agree on says/said. Like names, those two words can NEVER be used enough. Or almost never, at least.

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
the gray writing! AND ANYTHING RED. so so annoying.

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Date: 2010-01-09 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roseclaw.livejournal.com
Another classic: you're/your

Also, there's a difference between 'til and till. Till is a noun. And a verb. A till is where money is kept. To till is to prepare soil for sowing. (It's also a geological term involving glaciers, but not many people use that in fics.)

Until is a preposition. And a conjunction.

Until is up to a specific time or up to the time of something.

And then first person... Mostly, my beef is with people using “myself” or “I” instead of the proper “me.” They're not interchangeable.
“I” is a subject pronoun. “Me” is an object pronoun. “Myself” is a reflexive pronoun.

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
'TIL! I'm a big fan of 'til, those have become woefully interchangeable in fic, and I disapprove!

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Date: 2010-01-09 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slythhearted.livejournal.com
dragged/drug

Everytime I see "drug" used in place of "dragged" I cry a little.

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seratonation.livejournal.com
pmg i never knew people was used drug like that DDDDDD: omg wtf?

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Date: 2010-01-09 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madambeetroot.livejournal.com
Okay, I'll be the one to bring the tone down here... Prostrate/Prostate. Not at all the same thing!

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
oh my god, I HATE that, although it kind of makes me laugh at the same time.

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Date: 2010-01-09 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sp23.livejournal.com
Best post ever! :-)

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:37 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-01-09 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eckerlilas.livejournal.com
OMG OMG

lay vs lie: A chicken lays an egg. People lie down on beds. Unless we are speaking in past tense, because then lie DOES become lay.

Proper grammar is not for the weak of heart.

Sadly Bob Dylan was wrong when he asked that lady to lay across his big brass bed. ARGH


towards/toward - If you use the word towards you are wrong on the internet, as well as anywhere else you are sharing something written in the American version of English. It should always be toward.

I'm sure I'll think of more once I hit post...

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
HAHHAHA the toward thing I get wrong all the time and always have to catch it in editing - I'm sure I've missed some too.

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Date: 2010-01-09 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] annon-of-rhi.livejournal.com
Hi, just letting you know I'm going to follow you on Twitter, okay? I'm wantstothrill on my fandom one, and rhi_twit on my RL one. :)
Edited Date: 2010-01-09 04:03 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:38 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-01-09 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] appending-fic.livejournal.com
SHOW, DON'T TELL.

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
DEFINITELY!

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Date: 2010-01-09 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kws136.livejournal.com
Oh, man. How about ending a sentence with the word "at?" I mean, yes, ending sentences with prepositions is bad, but when the line "Where are you at?" shows up, I honestly want to hurt someone. There is no need for the final word! "Where are you?" is a perfectly acceptable sentence!

Or It's/Its! It's: it is; its: possessive.

It's easy: your, their, its - possessive all, and not one apostrophe.

My little grammarian heart is jumping for joy at this post!

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Date: 2010-01-09 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] highschoolhussy.livejournal.com
Technically the "not ending a sentence with a preposition" thing is a holdover from Latin and really not that valid. The final "at," though, is a legitimate rule. So irritating.

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Date: 2010-01-09 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilysaid.livejournal.com
"no-one" has become so prevalent in fanfic and fandom/the internet (it's actually one mistake that my students DON'T make, shockingly) that I feel like there's no reversing it, and it's SO VERY WRONG. that one, above all, is like nails on a chalkboard for me.

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
it ALWAYS makes me pause in a fic, it's like a glaring WRONGNESS.

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Date: 2010-01-09 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] restinpiecesluv.livejournal.com
This belongs ALL over bandom, seriously. It's desperately needed.

xoxo
Maggie Massacre ™

PS - When aren't great things happening at [livejournal.com profile] sodamnskippy? ^_^

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
it is! there should be a checklist that all writers must look over before posting!

I'm excited for v-day at sodamnskippy, too, starflowers and I have magic up our sleeves!

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seratonation.livejournal.com
where/were/wear: took me a while to get, its on the list of things i have to look out for specifically /o\

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:42 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] bluemeridian
The ever classic loose/lose/loosed/lost - at this point, I'm almost surprised when they're used correctly.

I'll be reading the comments to see which ones I've been violating!

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
oh dude, I always second guess myself at those! I'll write it and have to compare it to goose in my head - this is mainly because I'm a horrible speller, though :)

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mos-self.livejournal.com
Did somebody already mention the ITS/IT'S issue? (And on that note, there is no such thing as ITS'). That's my favorite peeve.

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
hahhahah I've never seen "its'" oh man, that's horrible!

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Date: 2010-01-09 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daneffew.livejournal.com
There are two other usages that get me.

Break /brake please only use brake when you are talking about a car.

Also I know it is usually just a typo but spellcheck will not catch it when you spell soldier wrong, solider is a real word.

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Date: 2010-01-09 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
typos that are real words are the worst! I'm sure I do that myself, too

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Date: 2010-01-09 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akire-yta.livejournal.com
I am actually considering ordering some posters off The Oatmeal like the one on the correct use of the apostrophe (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe) to help introduce the 18 year olds to the stunning and terrifying concept of formal grammar :)


Ten Words You Need To Stop Misspelling (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling) is also awesome

(and [livejournal.com profile] sodamnskippy is currently my favourite place to be. I'm in danger of spamming I'm having so much fun over there!)

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Date: 2010-01-09 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silverakira.livejournal.com
bemused/amused: NOT THE SAME THING ARG.

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Date: 2010-01-09 07:48 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-01-09 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lillypadmoose.livejournal.com
'Would have' not 'would of' - 'of' is not a verb.

Also, which very few people seem to know (and is, admittedly, not relevant all that often) people are hanged, things are hung. People are not hung except in slang, in which case it means something entirely different. The death penalty (in some places, at least) involved being hanged by the neck until dead, not hung.

Sarcasm and irony are different things, although I can tolerate their misuse.

And finally (for now, since I'm painfully obsessive about grammar) things are 'similar to' or 'different from' each other, not 'different to' or 'different than'.

Will stop whining now ;)

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Date: 2010-01-09 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
oh, I hate the would of's, they SUCK.

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Date: 2010-01-09 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stfu-pwentzz.livejournal.com
Hmm, most of mine were listed already. But you can have two more.

to/too- it just bothers me to no end.

And when people put Ross's

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Date: 2010-01-09 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
the Ross thing is actually valid. You can do that, but I tend to only do it in dialogue, since it's actually how you talk.

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Date: 2010-01-09 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melodyunity.livejournal.com
"Me and so-and-so" instead of "So-and-so and I." I hate this, especially when an author gives this dialogue to a character known for his/her intelligence and bookish ways. I'm sorry, Hermione would never say, "Me and Ron are going to the library." She just wouldn't.

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Date: 2010-01-09 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
the me-ands! that's my mom's biggest pet peeve with me and my brother (HA!). yeah, you're right, Hermione would totally not say that.

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Date: 2010-01-09 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nunshavingfun.livejournal.com
I agree with this list. Particularly about the says/said thing. Know them. Love them! Use them!

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Date: 2010-01-09 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinshan.livejournal.com
discreet vs. discrete annoys me.

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Date: 2010-01-10 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skoosiepants.livejournal.com
I am going to agree, even though half the time I don't get them right myself :)

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Date: 2010-01-10 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] druidspell.livejournal.com
Breath/breathe people!! You cannot breath, it is impossible! No one takes a breathe of fresh air!

Etc. is the abbreviation of "Et cetera." You can tell it's ETC because those are the first three letters of the phrase!

If you axe someone a question, I'm calling the cops, and when they ask why, I'll tell them it's because you're murdering the English language.

If you use the phrase "his turgid member" you'd better be writing for Harlequin.

If someone does something discretely, I want to see another character attempt to sew them back together.

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Date: 2010-01-10 01:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] druidspell.livejournal.com
Also, stop using "congradulations/congradulate" in fic! "ConGRADulations" is a hokey greeting card company invention used to conGRATulate a graduate on their graduation.

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Date: 2010-01-10 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kws136.livejournal.com
How about waist/waste?

Waist is that thing on your middle, above your hips and below your ribs. Waste is something you do with time or food.

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Date: 2010-01-10 04:42 am (UTC)
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