I’ll punch you in the head

[skoosiepants]

* Hermione is not well-loved. This makes me sad, because she can be totally cool if written correctly. Do not get me started on canon vs. fanon, because while I love her world, I do not particularly love JKR. Yes, that is possible.

* Panic!Fic is short, but longer than I expected it to be for just getting my feet wet. I picked Brendon as a pov, because I figured he was like Seamus, only less Irish and more gay. Yes, that is totally possible.

-- I keep using the phrase "punch you in the head." Mainly from Spencer. I feel this is justified.

-- While I can slash just about anybody in Panic!, I'm writing what I've seen very little of.

-- When I'm done, I'm probably going to need a character-checker, at the very least. It's not detail-heavy, though, because I'm not immersed enough in their lives.

Brendon was settled on the opposite side of the room from Spencer, legs pulled up and hands wrapped around his knees. Spencer was eating cereal.

“What’re you doing?” Ryan asked, looming over him.

“Spencer-watching.”

Ryan arched his eyebrows.

“I’m giving him his space,” Brendon clarified, and then Spencer raised his voice and said, “If you don’t stop staring at me, I’m going to punch you in the head,” without looking away from the TV.

* I need bandslash icons, now.

* Also, I've got all of The Black Parade in my head. The whole thing. On one continuous loop. I'm not complaining, it's just strange.

Comments

[starflowers.livejournal.com]

Oooh, there should be more. I'm so excited.

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

Eee! Hopefully I'll finish it soon :)

[dunv-i.livejournal.com]

Hermione is like that little person people don't like to touch character-wise. If they do, she's usually dating some bad-boy for unstated/untouched reasons. (There is one writer whom I love for the way she actually puts two unlikely characters together, for example, Hermione/Draco.)

And I liked the earlier books. The later ones annoy me more because, a. Harry is older, and therefore just seems stupider when he can't recall and apply things he overheard earlier, and b. Her writing seems to have adapted to be easier to turn into a movie script. Am I the only one who sees this?

~Dunvi

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I never liked Hermione/Draco. Hermione/Blaise is perfect for me, because Blaise is more socially retarded than anything else. For me, at least. Or he'd totally perverted. And Hermione is smart, but has a huge heart.

I've never thought JKR was a particularly good writer. I like her imagination, but that's it. And the newer books feel like she's been reading fanfiction and getting ideas or something. Her writing seems to have adapted to be easier to turn into a movie script. Hmmm, that's a good point.

[dunv-i.livejournal.com]

I don't like Hermione/Draco either. Draco is a rich bastard with money. And his family is as pathetically dysfunctional as it gets, which is why I love this one person's work; she makes it believable.

I wish JKR would focus less on the trio sometimes. She manages to have complete backgrounds and character studies on every single tiny character in the story, but many of them seem to have just disappeared, and the rest just never appear. I doubt Harry can isolate himself so thoroughly the only people who ever annoy him are the boys in his dorm, half of the girls in his dorm, a few people from Hufflepuff, and half of Slytherin.

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

the only good thing about that, though, is that we get to completely build the minor characters ourselves *nods*

[veracity]

Her writing seems to have adapted to be easier to turn into a movie script. Am I the only one who sees this?

Nope, not alone. Her atrocious writing of HBP was why I couldn't finish it. I tried, I did. But I never could get past the Quidditch tryouts. Hermione's dip into the stupid, flighty pool made it impossible. I liked Hermione in the beginning. She was a good counter to the boys more balls to the wall attitude. But then in HBP suddenly changed. I mean, the old Hermione wouldn't have gone into the shop pretending to be Draco's girl, or anything similar. I mean, hello, I'm sure her pic has been on the paper enough, especially with Skeeter, that people would notice if she was just strolling in.

The writing got so much lazier. I'm with skoosiepants. The writing was never stellar to begin with, but now, it's just downright pathetic. I've seen better unbetaed fan fiction written by twelve-year-olds. Hermione's become an ultimate Sue at this point, and between canon and movieverse, I can't be bothered to tune in.

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I'll probably suffer through the last book, just to find out what happens. And I'll see the movie out of habit. I don't want to be left out of new canon, but it's really going to be a unique kind of torture *nods*

[veracity]

*grins* That's why smart people like me latch on to you readers and find out what happens without having to suffer through the cause. Hey, I'm all about self-preservation. My blood pressure goes up when I read her. I can't handle it. I'll just keep on ignoring the books and movies left's existence. I haven't seen GoF yet. I can't be bothered when they keep cutting out important plot lines to amp up the not so important parts.

Plus, I got tired of Ron becoming scenery.

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

J loves GoF. Mostly because of the action, though. Plus, he's never read the books, so doesn't know what's supposed to go on.

Her writing just isn't very powerful. It's funny how I didn't care about any of the deaths, even though they were so built up, and it's a kid's book or whatever, so it was a big deal, but then in fanfiction sometimes just offhand lines about someone dying can get to me, because the characters are so much more real in that context.

Although, seriously, who would care about Sirius's death? I mean, I'm sure JKR liked him, but did she unintentionally make him an asshole? She should have beta-readers in the fandom or something. Ha, that'd be interesting.

[veracity]

*grins* Couldn't get me to watch it. I miss Ron's lines too much.

It isn't very powerful. You're right. It's like reading a Harlequin. You're going for adventure, not substance. The deaths should be an ass-kicker and they're not. It's just another death. Kinda like Lost and dead people. You expect it, it's just a matter of win.

And I wasn't upset about Sirius. I wanted the smug bully dead to begin with. He was cruel, underminded Molly (who only had *his* godson's best interests at heart). It was so crappy. She needs a better editor, for sure.

[castoffstarter.livejournal.com]

Um, okay you are an evil tease for showing me this little bit and I hate you. *shakes fist* Now finish before I pee my pants from anticipation. That's an order, missy.

I don't think I could be happier that you're writing in this fandom. Skoose is writing Panic!fic, I can die now.

Oh, go take a look at my icons, I have gads of Panic! ones. Feel free to take them, they're all credited properly.

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I'm so excited! I just hope it doesn't completely suck *nods*

Ooo, I must go look at your icons! yay!

[castoffstarter.livejournal.com]

It can't suck, you are the queen of crazy AU's and crack and pure awesomeness. Don't get cold feet just because it's a new fandom, you have me to boost your ego!

Please feel free to snag any, just credit them to the artist. I have gads of icons stashed away, I really need to do a cleaning. =/

[electric-ellie.livejournal.com]

Oh my Bob...P! ATD fiction... only you :D

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

They are SO CUTE!

[eckerlilas.livejournal.com]

hey doll. I can help with the character-checking and whatnot...if you need it.

[castoffstarter.livejournal.com]

Can you believe we've turned her? It gives me warm fuzzies just thinking about it!

[eckerlilas.livejournal.com]

I know, right?

Soon we'll have her writing full blown AUs and whatnot.

:P

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

YOU ARE BOTH TRULY EVIL

[eckerlilas.livejournal.com]

Oh you love us, don't lie!

<3

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I know. I'm so happy in this new and shiny place.

[castoffstarter.livejournal.com]

Evil? Or insanely smart? We converted Skoose into bandslash. I personally think we deserve some type of award for encouraging this behavior. *nods*

[castoffstarter.livejournal.com]

OMG, like Panic!Jon and BSG!Jon as beffies! Joining a band, getting their first pair of girlpants, popping out the guyliner and poking each other in the eye - okay I must stop before my heart bursts from all the awesome. I think I may have just shown my insane fangirlyness for these fandoms. :P

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, I do not watch BSG. But SGA or HP would not be out of the realm of possibility.

[castoffstarter.livejournal.com]

*facepalm* I meant SGA. I really did. I had just finished watching BSG and had a brain malfunction. Ignore me. *blushes*

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I will be sure to take you up on that offer, since I'm sorta flying blind here :)

[janne-d.livejournal.com]

I wish Hermione was more appreciated too - have you read the Tiffany Aching books by Terry Pratchett? Tiffany is clever, logical, reads a lot and likes people to get things right and I'm trying to remember a review I read that went something like: with any other writer, Tiffany would be the sidekick to some emotional, impulsive kid, and she'd learn to trust emotion over logic and cut loose, but with Terry Pratchett it she's the hero and turns out to be absolutely fine as she is. Which, okay, doesn't specifically compare with HP, but it certainly made me think of Hermione and Harry and sigh sadly.

So also not loving JKR over here - particularly since she started to signify shouting by having Harry SPEAK IN CAPITALS. If she's been reading fanfic, it must have been the bad stuff...

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I haven't read those, but that's an interesting comparison *nods* I think there's something about the character of Harry that makes everyone else less than they are. Especially with his rage issues and caps-locks. Seriously, that's the stuff of crackfic.

[janne-d.livejournal.com]

Argh, lj ate my comment! Let's try that again...

I had to give up on the HP books after OotP. I'd already got irritated with the unnecessary length and attention to every detail of every Quidditch match by Gof but in OotP, the way Harry was written annoyed me so much that I just lost interest completely and didn't care what happened anymore. Even the slowest person should have learned from their mistakes after 4 years, but it seems as though Harry hits a reset button at the start of every book and jsut does the same thing over again (with more shouting) - or maybe that's because JKR only has one story to tell *snark*

Re the Tiffany Aching books, I would definitely recommend them (and just about any other Terry Pratchett book really!) There are three out: The Wee Free Men, A Hat Full of Sky and Wintersmith. The first two are excellent and I've heard good things about the third. To quote the man himself: the opposite of funny isn't serious, it's simply unfunny; and these books are serious and funny and extremely good at both. There is a dark edge as well as a richness to the emotion of them that I think HP lacks, and they also made me laugh out loud.

[nunshavingfun.livejournal.com]

I KNEW you'd like MCR! *for the win!*

[nunshavingfun.livejournal.com]

PS. JKR fails at life, but wins at HP verse creation. Her hermione is a dud. I want hermione to die! :D

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

MCR is awesome! I should never doubt you.

Her characters are all weirdly two-demensional, and she is LONG-WINDED like, stab-your-face long-winded. Geez. Books that horribly written should not be over a thousand pages or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

I happen to adore Hermione, mostly because she reminds me of me a lot. So when I see Hermione being portrayed as too shrill and overbearing or worse, as merely the boys fact-checker, it is very upsetting. I love your Hermione with all of her eccentricities. And it helps that she gets Blaise... because that always makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

I have this vision of Hermione and McKay meeting and the resulting explosion. I haven't decided yet who would be the victor, but the explosion is exciting enough to think about. I think Zelenka would probably adopt Hermione who would regularly tussle for lab domination.

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I relate very heavily with Hermione, too. I think that makes her easier to write :)

I have this vision of Hermione and McKay meeting and the resulting explosion. I haven't decided yet who would be the victor, but the explosion is exciting enough to think about. I think Zelenka would probably adopt Hermione who would regularly tussle for lab domination. My regret is that I didn't fit any scenes with them all together, because that would be hilarious.

[hull1984.livejournal.com]

Ha! Just read your reply to my last and was scowling quietly to myself pondering your strange Spencer love...

But why? I was asking myself - y'know while scowling and pondering...

And then I read this! And it clicked - you do realise your Spencer sounds rather like a certain arrogant physicist don't you? (oh dear must at last to try to stop seeing Rodney everywhere...!!).

As for Ms Granger...don't mind her in the books but can't stand her in the films - a combination of the incredibly irritating girl that plays her and the fact that the ruddy film makers seem intent on giving her all Ron's best lines!!

JKR is a bit of a conundrum for me. I know she's not as talented as a wordsmith as her success seemingly warrants but I have still been hooked and drawn into the wonderful world she has created. And sometimes I think that's really cool - why should only the best writers have all the good ideas and recognition. And sometimes I'm appalled by it - how can someone so lacking in the essentials prove to be so popular?

But I mostly just feel sorry for Terry Pratchett - a master wordsmith, creator of wonderful worlds and yet still finding himself stamping his feet in irritation under Ms Rowling's pulling power. (I particularly like his antiseptically polite responses when he's asked to comment on her success...oh go on Terry tell us how you really feel...!!!!!).

Oh and I loved the first four books, was quite fond of OoTP but hated HBP with a vengeance - talk about giving in to the fans - geeze, it read like a particularly poor Harlequin novel! I mean Harry & Ginny was bad enough but the Tonks & Remus really made me think I'd stumbled into a not so great fanfic ...and if that was the case where the bloody f@@@ was the Ron/Draco that would make the rest worthwhile????

Ooh, you've really provked the old thought processes tonight haven't you?!!

But really...when can we expect some Brendon/Jon?!!!! Of course I've never actually seen any of them move - how lucky am I to discover Panic! on YouTube the day Viacom has its hissy fit!- so I don't know if my preferences will change when accompanied by movement and sound - but hell, you brought me Rodney...I trust ya!!!

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

I totally did not like Spencer at first. I was like, why all the Spencer love going around? But then I saw the light! Especially Spencer/Jon, but Spencer is just so cuddly and with the pretty hips and all. *loves*

And then I read this! And it clicked - you do realise your Spencer sounds rather like a certain arrogant physicist don't you? HA! I hadn't noticed that! Rodney slips into everything :)

But I mostly just feel sorry for Terry Pratchett - a master wordsmith, creator of wonderful worlds and yet still finding himself stamping his feet in irritation under Ms Rowling's pulling power. I haven't anything by Terry Pratchett except for Good Omens. I feel I am missing something.

Oh and I loved the first four books, was quite fond of OoTP but hated HBP with a vengeance - talk about giving in to the fans - geeze, it read like a particularly poor Harlequin novel! It did! I was like a bit of fanfiction that I normally wouldn't even go near!

But really...when can we expect some Brendon/Jon?!!!! Of course I've never actually seen any of them move - how lucky am I to discover Panic! on YouTube the day Viacom has its hissy fit!- so I don't know if my preferences will change when accompanied by movement and sound - but hell, you brought me Rodney...I trust ya!!! Brendon and Jon are so adorable together. Hell, they ALL are. They're the only group of boys I will actually read GSF for, because I normally dislike GSF's. It's like a puppy pile!

[absitively.livejournal.com]

JKR? created a brilliant universe, and then didn't do anything to it. I mean, look at it- there's all the elements of something that could've been a world commentary and she chooses to skip over all the nasty things that make it a great universe in favor of totally focusing on three characters that aren't that well written or developed. That's why I like fanfic. There better writers that actually explore these possibilities of who those minor characters are, of what the world could be like outside of Hogwarts, of these spells that are so honestly frightening (imagine seeing a stick waved at you, a flash of light and that's IT) and yet, Harry is entirely nonplussed by this entire situation in her universe.

I loved her universe, and then moved on from her books to find out what others thought and pretty much struck gold there in term of good writers and stories that explore her universe to a greater (and more believable) way.


BTW- PANIC!snippet? was too cute. Can't wait for the entire thing. eek! (ps- send over some recs of good panic!fic??)

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

JKR? created a brilliant universe, and then didn't do anything to it. Exactly. It's because she isn't that great a writer. I kind of wish she'd given the idea to someone else. Like, a co-writer or something. Or at least I wish somebody had thought to rigorously edit the crap out of her later books. Books about boy-wizards should not be that long! Half the stuff was boring and inconsequential, like she just wanted to tell us all as much as she could about the world in her head - but there's no revelance and it's just stupid and long.

ps- send over some recs of good panic!fic??) All the panic! stuff I've read is here (http://del.icio.us/houseofpants/panic!). It's all so adorable.

[absitively.livejournal.com]

Yes. It's like its supposed to be something it's not- either good turning-of-age work, or semi-social commentary or something- but it's not. And she's just not great enough of a writer to do something like that, and I wish she'd just stayed to her strength- imagination.

Thanks. I see some that I haven't read before...

[druidspell.livejournal.com]

*raises hand* I love Hermione. Especially yours, but even JKR's is lovable to me.

[skoosiepants.livejournal.com]

JKR's is better than the movie version, I'll give you that. Although I did love little Hermione in the first two. So wee!